Got no problem with the mad/rad trads. Except for their smugness. Seems to be a disability with them. I am just a Catholic who accepts Fatima, rejects Vatican 2, has to go to a NO parish and will be OK with that until I am able to change things .
Have you ever really gotten to know any trads? Or are you just taking potshots about them being “smug” because they think conversations being outside the church free Mass and not in the nave, or some other such trite disagreement.
There is a vast difference between the lifestyles of many trads and non-trads. Nons are generally secularists who go to Church on Sunday and quote CS Lewis and JPII, but their fighters still wear bikinis and shorty shorts, and they watch a lot more tv, and they send their kids away to college where they all violate the 6th and 9th commandments as a cultural norm, even at the “orthodox Catholic schools” like Steubenville, Ave Maria, and Benedictine College.
Trads aren’t smug, we’re more discerning about those with whom we associate.
Jonesy I tried to explain myself but alas, I don’t run this site. Mark knows what I said and decided since he’s friends with some of the people I mentioned in the mad/rad community my criticism will go unpublished.
Anyway I don’t say anything without good reason. And my conscience is clear.
Don’t bother with Mike. He’s known around here as a classic example of projection. He’s certainly one to talk about smugness; peruse any past comment section running back a year and witness the glass house he comments from, along with strawmen dolls, imaginary ire, and not knowing the Faith as much as he thinks.
Just look at his reply about being “censored” by our host – he feels oh-so-martyred and wishes you to know how saintly he’s been and how you’d know he knows better than the rest of us if only his comments were published. Too bad you’ll never see ’em!
Consider the kind of special person who talks the way someone like he does.
I never claimed to be a martyr, what I am saying is true. I replied Jonesy explaining myself, Mark didn’t publish, and then, interestingly, published your insulting comment to me, which pretty much shows two things: 1, Mark allows people to insult others if he hates the person being attacked and 2, I was rigjt about the smugness and fake charity of the mad/rad trad.
Mark ofc won’t publish this either, but he has to live with these truths, and that should bother him. It won’t, but it should.
Has nothing to do with martyrdom, just hypocrisy and fake piety.
Mike: Astute readers can guess what it means when Mark doesn’t publish you, or when Mark bans you for several weeks, or when a thread is suddenly “Comments Closed”. It means you wrote something unpublishable and he got fed up.
Mark frequently publishes things, as here, where you write “Mark ofc won’t publish this either” – but then he does. It means Mark is less of censor than you think and probably, when he does need to censor you, you probably behaved worse than you want to let on.
btw – I seem to notice that when “Mike” goes away, so do some other “new” commenters, who would say similar things and sometimes get his support.
Hmm. A legion, so to speak? I don’t know but to me, it’s a question.
Bikinis, shorts, social media, etc…just described the kids of many “trads” I know.
Oh many trads certainly have issues they need to work through but are spiritual bypassing with the “better” rite of Mass.
Lots of unhealthy behavior in community with lack of well-formed leadership in clergy. Trying to just keep my head down and survive.
Sad Trad, Mad Trad – both fit, in a good way. I mean, I can’t agree with every last view to be found here sometimes but even I am stunned & disappointed that the Pope is no longer Catholic and agree it would be a much better world, if he were. “Smad Trad”?
May God Bless Fr Nix. He is helping to lead the re-emergence of the traditional Catholic Church. Let’s keep going to Mass, stay confessed, and pray the rosary daily for the conversion and repentance of God’s enemies who live in mortal form on this earth.
What is the fight, exactly, that people should feel guilty for not participating in? Is it opposing error? Or is it supporting the “Pope Leo is an Antipope” claim? Coz last I checked, the latter is schismatic. This is not the same situation as with Bergoglio.
Pope Leo is the recognized head of the Catholic Church. It’s one thing to doubt the person of the Pope. It’s another to declare him an Antipope and therefore refuse submission – which is what you’re doing. You are not privately doubting Mark. You are publicly declaring that he’s an Antipope. You may be in schism. I’m not saying you are, but you very possibly are.
Well, you’ve separated yourself from the Pope, correct? Pope Leo is the recognized Pope. And, there is no rival claimant to the papacy. And you’re not just confused about the Pope – you’ve declared that he’s an Antipope. By your question and your position on Pope Leo, where is the Catholic Church now? Presumably you still view yourself as being a part of the Catholic Church. If Pope Leo is the head of the Catholic Church, as I believe, and you do not, then by my estimation, it’s possible that you’re somewhere between material and formal schism. And this is possibly the case for ’58 sedes too. There’s a reason why prophesy predicted several schisms in our time.
Prevost isn’t even Catholic. A non-Catholic cannot be pope. Prevost declared himself the head of the synodal church, on the first day of his “reign.” Synodality is an arch-heresy, ontologically opposed to the divinely instituted hierarchy of authority and jurisdiction of the True Church. It violates several infallible dogmas. This isn’t hard.
Think what you will but I believe the Prophecies of Malachi where the legitimate papacy takes a break after Benedict XVI then resumes at Peter II which apparently is the last pope. For me that means that I’m not going to worry about who is pope between Benedict XVI and Peter II. I just go to the SSPX, try to say my prayers, and prepare myself for heaven. Christ knows what’s going on since it’s His Church. Of course we all want Him to “wake up – the boat is sinking!” I also believe that the Thrid Secret of Fatima was a warning about VII and the changing of the Mass from the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to the Last Supper Mass.
Mic drop
Got no problem with the mad/rad trads. Except for their smugness. Seems to be a disability with them. I am just a Catholic who accepts Fatima, rejects Vatican 2, has to go to a NO parish and will be OK with that until I am able to change things .
Have you ever really gotten to know any trads? Or are you just taking potshots about them being “smug” because they think conversations being outside the church free Mass and not in the nave, or some other such trite disagreement.
There is a vast difference between the lifestyles of many trads and non-trads. Nons are generally secularists who go to Church on Sunday and quote CS Lewis and JPII, but their fighters still wear bikinis and shorty shorts, and they watch a lot more tv, and they send their kids away to college where they all violate the 6th and 9th commandments as a cultural norm, even at the “orthodox Catholic schools” like Steubenville, Ave Maria, and Benedictine College.
Trads aren’t smug, we’re more discerning about those with whom we associate.
Jonesy I tried to explain myself but alas, I don’t run this site. Mark knows what I said and decided since he’s friends with some of the people I mentioned in the mad/rad community my criticism will go unpublished.
Anyway I don’t say anything without good reason. And my conscience is clear.
Don’t bother with Mike. He’s known around here as a classic example of projection. He’s certainly one to talk about smugness; peruse any past comment section running back a year and witness the glass house he comments from, along with strawmen dolls, imaginary ire, and not knowing the Faith as much as he thinks.
Just look at his reply about being “censored” by our host – he feels oh-so-martyred and wishes you to know how saintly he’s been and how you’d know he knows better than the rest of us if only his comments were published. Too bad you’ll never see ’em!
Consider the kind of special person who talks the way someone like he does.
I never claimed to be a martyr, what I am saying is true. I replied Jonesy explaining myself, Mark didn’t publish, and then, interestingly, published your insulting comment to me, which pretty much shows two things: 1, Mark allows people to insult others if he hates the person being attacked and 2, I was rigjt about the smugness and fake charity of the mad/rad trad.
Mark ofc won’t publish this either, but he has to live with these truths, and that should bother him. It won’t, but it should.
Has nothing to do with martyrdom, just hypocrisy and fake piety.
Mike: Astute readers can guess what it means when Mark doesn’t publish you, or when Mark bans you for several weeks, or when a thread is suddenly “Comments Closed”. It means you wrote something unpublishable and he got fed up.
Mark frequently publishes things, as here, where you write “Mark ofc won’t publish this either” – but then he does. It means Mark is less of censor than you think and probably, when he does need to censor you, you probably behaved worse than you want to let on.
btw – I seem to notice that when “Mike” goes away, so do some other “new” commenters, who would say similar things and sometimes get his support.
Hmm. A legion, so to speak? I don’t know but to me, it’s a question.
Bikinis, shorts, social media, etc…just described the kids of many “trads” I know.
Oh many trads certainly have issues they need to work through but are spiritual bypassing with the “better” rite of Mass.
Lots of unhealthy behavior in community with lack of well-formed leadership in clergy. Trying to just keep my head down and survive.
Sad Trad, Mad Trad – both fit, in a good way. I mean, I can’t agree with every last view to be found here sometimes but even I am stunned & disappointed that the Pope is no longer Catholic and agree it would be a much better world, if he were. “Smad Trad”?
May God Bless Fr Nix. He is helping to lead the re-emergence of the traditional Catholic Church. Let’s keep going to Mass, stay confessed, and pray the rosary daily for the conversion and repentance of God’s enemies who live in mortal form on this earth.
Keep reminding us Father. We forget.
What is the fight, exactly, that people should feel guilty for not participating in? Is it opposing error? Or is it supporting the “Pope Leo is an Antipope” claim? Coz last I checked, the latter is schismatic. This is not the same situation as with Bergoglio.
It’s not the same as Bergoglio, but it’s also not schismatic. Schism is when someone separates himself from the person he acknowledges is pope.
Pope Leo is the recognized head of the Catholic Church. It’s one thing to doubt the person of the Pope. It’s another to declare him an Antipope and therefore refuse submission – which is what you’re doing. You are not privately doubting Mark. You are publicly declaring that he’s an Antipope. You may be in schism. I’m not saying you are, but you very possibly are.
Schism from what? Dare you name it?
Well, you’ve separated yourself from the Pope, correct? Pope Leo is the recognized Pope. And, there is no rival claimant to the papacy. And you’re not just confused about the Pope – you’ve declared that he’s an Antipope. By your question and your position on Pope Leo, where is the Catholic Church now? Presumably you still view yourself as being a part of the Catholic Church. If Pope Leo is the head of the Catholic Church, as I believe, and you do not, then by my estimation, it’s possible that you’re somewhere between material and formal schism. And this is possibly the case for ’58 sedes too. There’s a reason why prophesy predicted several schisms in our time.
Prevost isn’t even Catholic. A non-Catholic cannot be pope. Prevost declared himself the head of the synodal church, on the first day of his “reign.” Synodality is an arch-heresy, ontologically opposed to the divinely instituted hierarchy of authority and jurisdiction of the True Church. It violates several infallible dogmas. This isn’t hard.
Think what you will but I believe the Prophecies of Malachi where the legitimate papacy takes a break after Benedict XVI then resumes at Peter II which apparently is the last pope. For me that means that I’m not going to worry about who is pope between Benedict XVI and Peter II. I just go to the SSPX, try to say my prayers, and prepare myself for heaven. Christ knows what’s going on since it’s His Church. Of course we all want Him to “wake up – the boat is sinking!” I also believe that the Thrid Secret of Fatima was a warning about VII and the changing of the Mass from the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to the Last Supper Mass.