Benedict XVI’s own words prove that his resignation was invalid

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  1. For pete’s sake, as my mother would say this asshat Ratzinger was CO FREAKING AUTHOR of that SATANIC FILTH VATICAN II. CO AUTHOR. I was an altar boy with the TRUE LITURGY LATIN RITE TRIDENTINE MASS which was and is the ONLY MASS. I witnessed the “progression” towards SATAN. I was born November 1958 the fake SATANIC popes began with Roncalli in October 1958. Every single pope since then has been invalid. Roncalli Montini Luciani Wojtyla Ratzinger Bergoglio. The masons marched on the Vatican in 1917 saying they would replace the See of Peter with SATAN. Maximillian Kolbe was present at that march and wrote extensively about it. I have been sedevacantist my entire adult life. I cannot support anyone who does NOT REJECT VATICAN II

    1. Bravo Steve! Look who supports
      Benevacantism, or pretends to question it. All Opus Dei connected. Benevacantism is designed, maybe not on purpose by all, such as Mark and *maybe* even Ann and Mazza, to keep Catholics attached to the false VII religion.

      An invalid “pope” resigned invalidly….nothing to see here.

      1. There is no Vatican 2 false religion.

        Vatican 2 is not dogmatic, is an illusion.

        Sedes justify their existence, which is outside the Church, by giving V2 more power than it has. They NEED Vatican 2.

        Canon Law proves Benedict didn’t resign. Canon Law, which was written long before Vatican 2. Every other pope you think is invalid is based upon your emotional reaction to Vatican 2.

        You basically claim 1 billion people are in a false religion and you aren’t. The hubris.

        The Church is under demonic assault from Satan and Sedes have given him aid and comfort.

        If this was 1570 you’d be upset at the Tridentine Mass and would split too.

        NOTE, the devil is attacking the Church from within. We must fight it from within the Church. Not from a little traditional catholic cosplay club

        1. “You basically claim 1 billion people are in a false religion…”

          Yep.

          But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?

    2. My question to you is it is even possible, in principle, to be proven wrong? Or is that just nonsense apologism and apostasy?

      1. Sedes are a cult. Ergo they are never wrong. That’s one of the ways you can tell it is a cult. They never make a mistake.

          1. I understand you’re upset that I have corrected you. Whenever I post to the forum I make sure I’m right. This is why I can say “I am always right”. I don’t post ignorance. I thoroughly research before I type. I did this whenever I wrote papers in college and graduagte school. In fact, it’s quite common in research papers, persuasive writing.

            We have the sum of human knowledge at our fingertips. The paradox of our time is that we are more ignorant than ever.

            And unlike the Sedes, and Trump, I speak tongue in cheek. I don’t believe I am actually always right. But I’m not going to post without being right. And I’m not going to abandon the Catholic Church, or endorse an evil man.

    3. Hey Steve, Just wondering what the True Mass was before 1570 when, after 1537 years the Church got around to establishing a True Mass.

      And how much do you want to bet you and Kono would’ve reacted the same way and threw a tantrum and established a little club to oppose the Council of Trent?

      I’ll say it again. Vatican 2 was not dogmatic. It was an illusion that leftists used to reform and people like you used to oppose the Church. Reform only comes from within. From real fighting. Nothing you do as a Sede will save the Church nor your soul .

  2. If Paul 6 was a valid pope, and Vatican II a legitimate ecumenical council, then what was promulgated is binding ordinary magisterium. (Paul 6 said as much).
    If Vatican II isn’t binding (or is heretical in part), then non-sedes need to explain how that can be, since it had the teaching authority of the pope in union with the world’s bishops and should have been protected from error.

    1. My admittedly inexpert attempt to square the circle: the NO, like most of the fruits of VII, was *barely* on the side of being Not Absolutely Wrong, and therefore was permitted by heaven. VII was the Church equivalent of a toddler holding up his finger *almost* to his brother’s face, and chanting “I’m not touching you!”

      The suppression of The Mass, however, was an “illegal order”; and following it was indiscreet obedience.

      1. If Paul 6 was a valid pope, he had the absolute right to suppress the TLM (not that I would support that). Ultimately. I find it’s the R&R folks who undermine the papacy – not the ’58 or ’22 sedes.

        1. Negative. Immemorial custom has the force of law. Even Pius V tacitly conceded this when in quo primum he ordered the suppression of all other rites *except* those which had been known over 200 years. That is, had been known for as long as there was trustworthy oral tradition.

          So Paul VI, presuming he was really the pope, had not the power to order the Mass to be suppressed, whether for a better or a worse rite. The order was illegal, therefore null.

          Again, this is me opining in relative ignorance, but I think it hangs together well enough.

    2. Nothing in the 16 V2 documents reflects the reality of what has been done in its name. More importantly, it isn’t infallible because it doesn’t reveal dogma or define heresies. It can be changed or revoked.

      Want it changed? Want to go back? Ok, fine. You can’t do that outside of the Church. And Sedes define themselves by being outside of what they think is Vatican 2 religion. They think they are the true Church.

      And that’s the problem.

      You fight for the Church from within the Church.

      1. So a valid pope, in union with the bishops of the world under the auspices of an ecumenical council, can teach error through the ordinary magisterium…good to know!

        1. Edison, yes. It has happened before, but was corrected later. Filioque controversy best example. Decree on Conciliarism from the Council of Constance another big one.

          1. I don’t think pre-Vatican II teaching / theologians would support your opinion about a legit ecumenical council.

            I believe you are wrong about Constance because the pope wasn’t valid: “The Council of Constance was convoked in 1414 by the Anti-Pope John XXIII, one of three rival claimants to the papal throne, the other two being Gregory XII and Benedict XIII. The Council was called to resolve all doubts as to the true successor of Peter, and end the Great Schism. John agreed to resign if his rivals would do the same, then he fled the city. In the absence of a papal convenor, the Council enacted Haec Sancta (fifth session, 15 April 1415), which purported to subject even papal authority to the authority of the Council. John was brought back and deposed for scandalous conduct. Gregory convoked the Council anew, rejected all its prior proceedings (including Haec Sancta), and then resigned.” (From EWTN)

            Can you give more detail on the Filioque controversy? I will look into it.

          2. Haec Sancta continued in force under at least two valid popes until overturned over a hundred years later. The Filioque was omitted in the Nicene Credo, contrary to what you’ve been taught. The council at Ephesus in 431 further upheld this. It wasn’t until the ninth century at the earliest that the Filioque was inserted into the Credo.

          3. From what I can see of the Filioque controversy, a clarification to the Creed was made, not a correction, so no error was taught: “Ephesus’s prohibition of making a new creed in addition to the Nicene prompted questions about the status of the material added by Constantinople I. How this material was to be regarded was settled at the ecumenical Council of Chalcedon (451), which stated,

            Therefore this sacred and great and universal synod . . . decrees that the creed of the 318 fathers is, above all else, to remain inviolate. And because of those who oppose the Holy Spirit, it ratifies the teaching about the being of the Holy Spirit handed down by the 150 saintly fathers who met some time later in the imperial city–the teaching they made known to all, not introducing anything left out by their predecessors, but clarifying their ideas about the Holy Spirit. (Definition of the Faith).

            According to Chalcedon, it was permissible for the Fathers of Constantinople I to include the material on the Holy Spirit in the Creed of Nicaea; they were not adding substance but clarifying what was already there. Yet if this option of making clarifying notations to the creed was permissible for them, it would be permissible for others also. Thus the Council of Florence could add “filioque” legitimately as a clarification of the manner of the Spirit’s procession.” – Catholic Answers
            Again, I believe it is established Catholic teaching that a legitimate ecumenical council in union with a valid pope cannot teach error.

          4. Edison, the Council of Constance is recognized by the Catholic Church. Pope Gregory XII in 1414.
            He confirmed its legitimacy. At the end of the council John XXIII was deposed, Pope Martin V was rightfully elected.

          5. FWIW, the link below explains how the initial sessions of Constance were convened by an anti-pope and how Haec Sancta was therefore promulgated without papal authority. Gregory XII, the valid pope at the time authorized sessions beginning on 4 July 1415 and declared all previous sessions (the first thirteen — which included Haec Sancta) null and void. Martin V ratified the succeeding sessions at the conclusion of the Council. So again, a legitimate ecumenical council did not teach error.

            https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/council-of-constance-1459

          6. Edison, you’ve pasted this here before, and it’s wrong. I’ve provided the accurate history, but you just don’t like it.

          7. It’s not simply that “I don’t like it”, you haven’t provided any sources or citations to backup your assertions. If you have any, I’d like to review them.

          8. Mark, just a quick glance at the Rorate link and I see the second source they used was a Josef von Hefele, a liberal, German bishop who denied VI papal infallibility. I’ll try to dig into their other sources when I have time.

          9. Mark – I think this article (also by de Mattei) does more to prove your point (you’ll have to hit the translate button):
            https://katalikutradicija.lt/istorija/haec-sancta-1415-visuotinio-susirinkimo-dokumentas-pasmerktas-baznycios

            However, the article you linked does undercut the validity of the Council at the time Haec Sancta was promulgated, saying it had no authority (de Mattei agreeing):
            “Cardinal Brandmüller notes that: “the assize which issued those decrees was in no way an ecumenical council authorized to define the doctrine of the faith. It was, instead, merely an assembly of the followers of John XXIII (Baldassarre Cossa),one of the three “popes” contending at that time for the leadership of the Church. That assembly had no authority. The schism lasted until the council of Constance unified with the other two parties, i.e. the followers of Gregory XII (Angelo Correr) and the ‘natio hispanica’ of Benedict XIII (Pedro Martinez de Luna),an event that occurred in the autumn of 1417. Only then did the ‘council’ of Constance become a true ecumenical council, even if still without a pope, who eventually was then elected.”

            All true, but Martin V , elected ‘the true’ Pope in Constance on November 11, 1417, in the Bull Inter cunctas of February 22, 1418, acknowledged the ecumenical nature of the Council of Constance and all that it had decided in the previous years, albeit with a generically restrictive formula: «in favorem fidei et salutem animarum». 2”

            All very confusing, as the actions of Gregory XII aren’t addressed, nor is there real clarity as to what was truly accepted or simply allowed to remain unaddressed given pressure on the papacy due to the schism at the time.

          10. Edison, you might also consider a deep dive into the Filioque controversy. This error by omission first committed at Nicaea, continued on through eight successive Ecumenical Councils and their various tinkering with the Credo until, 700 YEARS LATER, it was finally corrected. You’ll agree the Church did not defect at any of these Councils, nor were there nothing but antipopes for 700 years.

  3. Everyone is wondering why LifeSiteNews and Taylor Marshall are suddenly promoting the truth that Bergoglio is an antipope. It is now the fifth or so article on LifeSiteNews presenting the irrefutable evidence that Bergoglio is an antipope.

    Ann Barnhardt in her last podcast suggests it is because they really believe it but have been too scared to lose their money and privileges that they get from the establishment Vatican II anti-Church. They are terrified to be excommunicated. Frank Walker at Canon212 thinks it is because Bergoglio is so old, and they are hedging their bets.

    On the other hand, deep state operative Eric Sammons (check out his LinkedIn resume; he goes from providing the government with software in Rockville, Maryland, to Director of Evangelization in the Diocese of Venice), who seems to have purchased with CIA money Crisis Magazine and appointed himself the CEO, decided he would never ever criticize “Francis” and that he must repent of this terrible sin.

    It reminds me of the sleazy behavior of the RINO deep state operatives Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo before and just after the election.

  4. The “universal peaceful acceptance” crap has to stop. John of St. Thomas is quite clear: “UAP” inherently infers that the Universal Church accepts the claimant as 1) the proximate rule of Faith (in that when he speaks on matters of Faith and morals, the faith accept his teachings as, at the least safe, trustworthy, and not wrong), and 2) the Supreme Legislator (in that when the claimant rules on something or interprets a matter of law, that interpretation is final and binding). NEITHER of those has been granted to any claimant since the death of Pius XII in 1958. Thus, no Conciliar pope has has had universal peaceful acceptance.

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