61 thoughts on “Will the MAGA true believers please comment on this?”

  1. I would expect crickets, for the relatively benign reason that I haven’t ever seen a “true MAGA believer” around this blog. Plenty of true Mary believers. (yay!)

    It might be fun to check on the publicly pro-Trump Catholics – say Bannon, Posobiec, Taylor Marshall etc.

    1. Poso, at least, has been re-tweeting things by other people which tell Trump he’s still wrong & he’d better course-correct, get some Epstein accountability.

      I think Charlie Kirk of TPUSA has been doing likewise. (by the way, AI tells us that Kirk isn’t Catholic, but more Evangelical.)

      I think that answers the question, How would MAGA true believers comment?

      We don’t have any around here, but we can check their public content. They seem to be telling Trump, here have some strokes & praise but you are still wrong on this Epstein thing. Smarten up.

      Poso’s latest is a retweet of this, “Catholics For Catholics Joins Gen. Flynn In Respectfully Asking Trump To Bring Resolution To The Epstein Web Of Evil” – that is, expose Epstein clients.

    2. Alex Marlow (Breitbart), with Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec at the TPUSA conference a few days ago. You cannot get more “MAGA true believer”.

      https://youtu.be/ZwY3r0tCIW0?t=1004

      Their comment seems to be: They get to criticize Trump. Broad-tent MAGA gets to disagree and argue. Epstein matters to people, because of accountability & transparency. They get it. You could even connect it to covid, like, when will the whole lying shadowy system be exposed? Although they themselves care more about the immigration issue where Trump wins bigly, and MAHA where RFK Jr. has some good things in motion.

      Question answered.

  2. As the kids say he’s cooked. Was a good run though. Most convincing larp in decades.

  3. I think he’s losing it. Dramatic overstatements to knock your opponent off balance is one thing, attacking and insulting your own loyal supporters is another.

    Even his “you have fifty days to make peace or I’ll raise your tariffs by 100 percent” is way too extreme – even for him.

    I have been wondering for a little while now if there is something wrong with him.

    I’m still supporting most of what he does, and it needed doing, but personally…I’m sad.

    I don’t think he was a fake; they don’t assassinate fakes. I do wonder if he’s being doped.

  4. Best case scenario is that it’s a con to get the commies to beg for the Epstein files to come out.

    Worst case scenario is that the Intelligence Community has more control in Washington than MAGA.

    The “settling” scenario is that Trump has accomplished a lot more than I ever dreamed, and we may have to settle for no reckoning on pedos.

    1. Frank, the RESULTS will be, some of each. With at least some Epstein clients getting exposed, although maybe not all who deserve it. But enough to make a slightly better impression.

      And then Trump opponents will go, No way! How could he be so lucky? How does his flailing always turn out? Only with diabolical aid. He is surely the Antichrist.

      While Trump supporters will say: Oh look how good he is at manipulating everyone. He wins again. It’s not luck, it’s psy ops or 3,075-D chess.

      And people who want to be neither, will say: But what kind of theater, was this? Who is actually behind all this theater? It is too absurd to say, the Antichrist. But still – who? Toward what end?

  5. Any time someone ends a screed with “Thank you for your attention to this matter” I think of a faceless HOA issuing a weed abatement notice to someone they don’t care about. Its in the same category as “Have a good day” and “Stay safe.” A dismissive platitude to paint a thin veneer of civility upon a forceful command.

    If this administration is going to twist itself from truth into force, I will not take it very well at all. Just like Bongino isn’t.

  6. To continue my thought. General Mike Flynn would be a Trump true believer, right? And “raised Catholic”. Poso has re-posted Flynn’s response (implying some degree of endorsement).

    https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1945522795875877077

    Some of his key points.

    – “The EPSTEIN AFFAIR is NOT about who killed him or if he committed suicide—personally, I’m glad this known pedophile is dead.”

    – “All we want at this stage is for a modicum of trust to be reestablished between our federal government and the people it is designed to serve…Epstein had a list of clients who represented the upper crust of society, and likely did untoward things to CHILDREN…which iss NEVER acceptable.”

    – “This is where this argument went off the rails. It is NOT about Epstein or the left. It is about committing crimes against CHILDREN…those responsible MUST be held accountable. If there is another country involved, then shame on them as well. If there are elites inside of our country that committed crimes against CHILDREN (shame on them) and they MUST be held ACCOUNTABLE.”

    – “You truly represent ISAIAH 6:8”

    Now we know. The “MAGA true believer” reaction is: Lecture Trump that he’s still wrong & must course-correct, with praise thrown in to soften it.

    1. Flynn was a faithful employee of Obama sent to infiltrate Trump. How does the head of DIA not know that he should never talk to the FBI without a lawyer?

      Was all GoT stuff. No one in this story is good.

      Everybody wants to find someone “good” in Washington. There is no one.

      1. Just for the record, I stated no position here on whether Flynn is “good”. And I made no attempt to find anyone “good” in Washington.

        Depicting Flynn as “faithful” to Obama – That’s a stretch. I’m aware that Flynn was appointed at DIA under Obama. But then Flynn came into conflict with Obama. And I doubt that Trump would want to pardon Flynn, if Flynn were indeed an Obama guy. And I doubt that an Obama guy would so strongly urge Trump to expose Epstein clients, which surely include Clinton & many Obama guys along with Prince Andrew & GOP guys.

        As to Flynn foolishly talking to FBI people without a lawyer: It happens all the time, in Washington. They acted friendly and Flynn simply did not understand they wanted to trap him. Flynn might be a dummy; I’d agree, at the very least, that Flynn is no genius. But an Obama guy? Oh please.

        1. Not sure how the director of the best Intel agency in the government, the DIA, didn’t know about Comey and the gang, but OK. The “We are friends” ploy is the oldest cop ploy in the book.

          Obama never fired Flynn. And gee, if I was trying to get my guy in the Trump administration I can’t think of anything better than to “warn” Trump about Flynn which caused this colossal moron to think “Obama hates him so he’s MAGA” and the rest is history.

          All I need to know about Flynn is that for years he pushed the “Q” nonsense which literally was a psyop to get folks to accept Trump’s misdeeds as “trusting the process”.

    2. The real test will be if they are still talking about it in a week or if it’s just another one of Trump’s grand distractions as he does something else to further his police state/war machine. Those that you mentioned as MAGA true believers, I tend to believe only say what they are told to say, at least most of the time.

      While I hold to the theory that there is a tiny chance he is being blackmailed, I tend to believe he has always been a part of the evil one’s plan, but is not the anti-christ as he doesn’t check nearly enough boxes.

  7. Streisand effect, anyone?

    Also thoughts of withstanding him to his face for the scandal given, to say nothing about the political cudgel he just handed the Evil Party (TM) just to show that the GOP should be known as the Stupid Party.

    Leaves me shaking my head.

    It’s just bad; no two ways about it.

    1. They’re both evil parties. I mean Republicans took out their pro life platform, funds the Gazan genocide and covered up Epstein. It’s all evil in Washington.

  8. Trump is Benito Mussolini yelling from the balcony. If Mussolini were a 12 year old girl and the balcony was his own propaganda website.

    Trump has no moral compass. He authorized the Covid 19 vaccines, raised more debt than any US president, has escalated WW3 in Ukraine so much that China is entering the fray, has made a mockery out of our immigration enforcement (designed) while now talking about amnesty, has destroyed the economy with tariffs where even the threat can destroy the economy, is destroying the rest of the economy with his bill that is 100 percent Cloward Piven, started the Middle East theater of WW3 with Iran, and has covered up the greatest scandal in US history: Epstein.

    He has said “God bless Israel” more than “God bless that USA”, his FBI director has said his job is to protect Israel and his State Dept has said Israel is the greatest nation on earth. His CIA director is a puppet of Mossad and his defense secretary believes we should start WW3 for Israel so Jesus comes back.

    Oh and most people didn’t notice that he had the Republican party remove its pro life stance from its platform and his awful wife came out as pro choice.

    And he’s done most of this in one year and 5 months.

    I got ridiculous amounts of heat for exposing this guy 5 years ago and I still feel nuts because no one is even trying to stop him.

    And today his AIPAC dominated Congress voted against releasing the Epstein files.

    I wonder if Father Ripperger ever ponders that maybe he’s not that good at recognizing evil.

    The US is over. Plan accordingly.

    1. The bill to “release all the files” was pure theater, too. As if anyone was going to sit still for making videos of underaged girls being raped (and worse) available to the public.

      The bill was written in a way to ensure it would be DOA.

      1. Files are files, not videos. Bondi said she had the file on her desk . We should see it, especially if there is “nothing” there.

        Let’s say it was theater. It probably was. It was good theater, because it showed in stark relief, once again, that the “good” party, the “pro life” party , the party that has been saying, in unison, that the files should be released, is evil. They don’t really care about any of that stuff.

        The bill exposed the hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy of the Republicans. I would have voted for the release. Not one Republican did.

        1. The bill didn’t actually specify “files”. The language called for the release of all unclassified Epstein-related DOJ and FBI materials, which would certainly include the videos.

          I would have abstained from voting and called it out for the fraud it was. But that’s because I, nor anyone I answer to in this life, has ever been to Little St. James Island.

          1. Why would you have abstained from voting? Don’t you want the truth out? Or is politics really that important to you?

            If you care about the truth you vote yes. At the very least you’re calling their bluff and you stick to your morals.

            It should be simple. If there is nothing there, release it. If there is something there, also release it. Especially after being elected to do so.

          2. I said why, in two posts. Because the bill was a fraud and a bullshit political stunt. And because I’m not voting to have videos of children being violated by oligarchs released to the public.

          3. CJ,

            Even if you think it is a political stunt you vote yes because if you’re wrong the truth comes out and if you’re right you are still doing the Catholic thing. The Christian thing.

            Of course there’s no way the government is going to put child porn on their website. This is about Trump keeping his promises and more importantly justice.

            Strange that you don’t see this

          4. “… the Catholic thing. The Christian thing.”

            Rule #4: Make the enemy live up to his own book of rules.

            Very subtle.

          5. You’re not my enemy, but by comparing me to Alinsky I am yours. Which, fine, who cares. I find it ironic I am Alinsky to you because I’m asking you to do the Christian thing.

            You simply need to act as a Christian would and not as someone wearing a cheap red MAGA hat.

  9. He’s just putting the finishing touches on the biggest bait & switch in US political history.

    What’s interesting to me is how JD Vance is being kept clean from the fallout. I suspect he factors pretty heavily in the script in the not-too-distant future (in case the best selling memoir and Ron Howard feature film didn’t tip you off already).

  10. I voted for MAGA this election. Not Trump. I like MAGA people way better than Hope-Changey Antifa folks. The other guy would have left the prolifers in Jail. That said one of the dangers of Trump is the alphabet soup social poison to which he panders. Those Epstein files need to be released.

  11. It’s proof #53255677876553321234567890098 that democracy and voting for the lesser evil leads ultimately to rule by bipartisan blackmailable pedophiles.

    God is going to annihilate America, so He’s letting us learn why. Trump is just making sure the millstone is tied nice and tight before he hands it off to the next Manchurian candidate.

  12. He doesn’t care anymore. No reelection to care about and he was almost killed so he will speak like this more and more.

    Personally I know all I need to know about JE and his island and the celebrities who went there.

  13. https://www.andrewcusack.com/2006/the-last-will-and-testament-of-louis-xvi/

    I share this, the last will and testament of King Louis XVI of France, written from prison on Christmas Day, prior to his unjust execution. Please read it in its entirety. Note the extreme humility, piety and due reverence and thanksgiving to God and His Church, despite the physical and mental torture, the cruel separation from his family, the slander and show trials he endured, and his impending execution. What does this have to do with Donald Trump? Nothing and that’s my point. Donald Trump, and yes, all the democraps on the “other side” of the masonic uniparty are the sad and sorry result of what we get when government separates from the Church and Her Teachings.

    Sts Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette (yes, I believe they are saints), pray for us.

  14. I’m definitely against Mr. Lesser Evil. Voting for his opponents would have also ended in the death of USA. Voting for either should have been inadmissible.

    I hope is now clear politics (the chapters, and not every page) is scripted. Putin is also following his script.

  15. In light of Schumer’s “the intel community has 7 ways to Sunday to get you..” I think that is What Trump must mean by “hoax”. After having at least four years to doctor/deep fake this evidence I believe it is a trap. Now Trump is damned whether the material is released or not. Conjecture yes, but certainly plausible.

    1. Does everyone forget that Trump put Epstein in jail in 2019 and that Epstein “committed suicide” in Trump’s DOJ’s custody?

      It’s crazy how everyone is still wedded to this belief that Trump is a victim.

      I mean, this may sound coo coo for Cocoa puffs, but maybe the reason there are 3 minutes missing on the prison tape (yes it’s actually 3) is not because some “deep state” operative killed Epstein, but because the Trump administration killed Epstein.

      He’s not one of us, folks. We have to stop giving this destroyer the benefit of the doubt.

      1. So you think those who used the “Steel” dossier wouldn’t jack with the Epstein evidence to try to bring Trump down? Like Trump or not, that doesn’t seem like a big leap to me.

        1. Praenestrian – agreed.

          As of this morning, the divide is between Trump who says “Bring out the 2019 data set which is when we had a clean accurate case against Epstein”, and Democrats who say “Bring out the 2025 data set which we dirtied up with fake & misleading evidence for 4 years.”

          The Russiagate revelations, declassified today from DNI Tulsi Gabbard, are shocking. Obama White House literally had meetings with Brennan, Comey, etc. where they planned the Russia hoax, knowing it was a hoax. So Democrats would, in terms of their mindset, be able & willing to fake other things too.

        2. I see we’re still going with the Trump-is-a-victim narrative. Smh.

          Did Trump’s enemies make him hang out with Epstein? Did Trump’s enemies make Epstein recruit from Mar-a-Lago? Did Trump’s enemies make him write a dirty and cryptic birthday message to Epstein in 2003?

          This is the way it is with the cult. Trump was duped, lied to, or set up in everything he’s ever done. Which begs the question: why vote for a guy so clueless and gullible.

          I’m just about out of F’s to give.

  16. I’m a MAGA supporter of DJT, go to the SSPX and am tired of hearing about the shape of Epstein’s male genetalia, his island and the list. While it would be juicy (the main reason people want names named…i.e., to never-endedly SALIVATE) to read Epstein’s little black book, if indeed there is one, I think that DJT isn’t interested in evil sexual experience with children. A huge weight was lifted when he won in 2024 and I’m grateful to President Trump for the tariffs, closing the border and choosing JD Vance as his Vice President. All whiners can wimper and whinge (or scream and yell…whatever) in someone else’s brain. You won’t affect mine.

    1. Child rape > cool tariffs. Change my mind. Besides, it was a campaign promise, just like cutting spending which the OBBB increases the debt by $10T. I am thankful the border is secure. If you are still all-in, you should write it up.

      1. The US-Canadian border is not particularly secure. Vermonters living in the Northeast Kingdom and other parts of Northern Vermont are very reluctant to take moonlight walks – fearful of encountering invaders.

        HIAS ( Hebrew Immigration Aid Society) and the IOM ( International Organization for Migration) were/are the big players in promoting/facilitating/funding ( with US dollars $$$) the illegal immigrant invasion of our Southern border.

        The inflow has slowed to a trickle, for now, but the immigration camps are being expanded in Panama and the Darien Gap. The plumbing is still in place and enhanced for when the “spiget” is turned on.

        It ain’t over until the fat lady sings….and she won’t be singing “Moonlight in Vermont.”

      2. The Netherlands had the ‘BBB”. ” The Farmer–Citizen Movement (Dutch: BoerBurgerBeweging [buːrˈbʏrɣərbəˌʋeːɣɪŋ]; BBB) is an agrarian and right-wing populist political party in the Netherlands.”

        The US has the BBB.

        Both ” progenitors” of the WEF.

        Trump is one of ” them” and his marching orders are to implement destructive policies to destroy the United States.

        Get ready for that “huge weight that was lifted when Trump won in 2024” to drop on your head.

        Trump was and still is a supporter of the “death jab” causing the death of millions if not tens of millions.

        Remember, ” stupid never takes a day off.”

      3. Mark, in all friendliness I will tell you this: None of us have any idea, what script change is coming next.

        Trump is WELL KNOWN for his constant psy ops & using “reverse psychology” to make opponents focus on the wrong things.

        Do I think he’s doing it here? No. I do not think that.

        To repeat it (because I know this comment will be misunderstood or mis-taken by someone): No, no, no. No I do not think that.

        What I actually think is: that I don’t know. That I need to see the next flip-the-script moment or seven. And that everyone else needs to.

        Meanwhile, Trump is still the first President in decades to actually do something about human trafficking, drug trafficking, child trans, speech freedom, gun freedom, religious freedom.

        Just sayin. I don’t know everything about him. And I don’t support him. I support God, Jesus & Mary.

        I do have *slight predisposition*, let’s say, for the guy who does some decent things about human trafficking, drug trafficking, child trans, speech freedom, gun freedom, religious freedom. But only slight. Because with human beings, nothing is ever final.

        1. I pretty much knew all of this and predicted it and was ridiculed and briefly kicked off the site.

          I’ve said and will continue to say we are at the end and Trump is the one bringing it to us. He’s the most evil president we’ve ever had.

          As long as people want to hold on to the notion that there is goodness in Trump, and goodness on the right, the misery won’t end

          1. Mike – It’s not my place to re-hash why you were kicked off the site for several weeks, but as someone who was around vaguely for parts of it, I can observe that you remember it differently from most people.

            Also your comment is attached – in my eyes, strangely – to one of mine where I disclaimed the notion of goodness in Trump or any living human and proclaimed the notion of goodness in God, Jesus, Mary.

          2. Jeff O,

            You were one of the gang piling on and accusing me of not being me, being not Catholic, etc etc. I was kicked off because people got tired of my opinion about Trump. You were allowed to make fun of me personally. And that’s the reality.

            And I was right about Trump, which is the only thing I cared about.

          3. Mike – False witness there.

            Not once, not ever, not remotely, not slightly did I ever do the things you just stated falsely. “not being [you], being not Catholic”.

            Give me a minute…. OK Mike, I just literally prayed for you.

            I did and still do think that some of your comments are so pathetically absurd, that you sound like a CCP or Cartel shill. “Sound like”, as in, “sounds like”. That’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it, casting zero no aspersion as to what you are really, which I have always said that I simply do not know. God bless!

          4. P.S. Mike – here is an(other) concrete example or 2 of you making comments I happen to find absurd, just so far wrong.

            You say Trump is “the most evil president we’ve ever had”. Nah. Imperfect, yes. Is wrong on some things, even morally wrong, yes.

            But “most evil” would have to be one of LBJ (Kennedy assassination & Viet Nam war) or Obama, possibly FDR. To claim it’s Trump simply makes no sense.

            Likewise, you say “I wonder if Father Ripperger ever ponders that maybe he’s not that good at recognizing evil” – when you’re not even ordained, right? and not an exorcist?

            I know nothing about you Mike – and I have always said that. You are anonymous to me, you could be ordained, you could be someone who confronts satan daily in exorcisms – and if you are, by all means let me know. Because THAT information would put me in my place 😉

            I’m guessing, in the meantime – Guessing – that you’re not an exorcist & not ordained, which means your dislike of Father Ripperger gains a note of absurdity as well as disrespect.

    2. After Trump goes, the blackmailed pedophiles running the country on either party will undo the tariffs, open the border, Vance will do a 180, and trannies will come after the children again.

      I’ll whine and scream again at you then. So you should enjoy the interregnum while it lasts.

      1. Trump is preparing to give amnesty, like Reagan. His immigration enforcement is mere theater. He does something (‘I solved the immigration crisis, promises made promises kept!) then does what he really wants (amnesty) and then says the issue is over.

        Any president who hated illegal immigration would’ve simply said he would enforce the law, not brag about what his moves. It was all for public consumption.

        By the way if you’re a service economy, dependent on other countries for durable goods and you tariff those countries that make your stuff you have no leverage. For we still need things to buy, so we will buy them and pay the tariffs as consumers. Which makes us poorer.

        And since some of these countries buy US debt they can simply retaliate to tariffs by selling that debt and refusing to buy any more bonds.

        Trump is a destroyer.

      2. I’ll be long gone by that time and not worrying about a thing except wondering when God will let me out of purgatory.

        1. Before you depart this world, Susan, please consider that spending some time caring about the fact that the U.S. government is covering up child-sex trafficking may help lessen or avoid spending more time in purgatory, if only because you know the God cares, Susan, and purgation of our stains is all about caring for what God wants.

          We don’t expect you to solve anything, Susan, simply do not grow lukewarm about this scandal as you have just done.

    3. I think Satan himself could get the Christian vote by passing pro-life laws. Cue people telling us that they’re all evil but he’s the lesser evil compared to Democrat Hunter Biden and that we shouldn’t judge him so rashly or unfairly Besides, he’s pro-life and good at managing money.

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