(I find it very interesting that Antipope Bergoglio has been NECK DEEP with the CIA for 50 years. -nvp)
By Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, March 16, 2013
Jorge Mario Bergoglio: “Washington’s Pope in the Vatican”?
The election of Pope Francis I (sic) has broad geopolitical implications for the entire Latin American region.
In the 1970s, Jorge Mario Bergoglio was supportive of a US sponsored military dictatorship.
The Catholic hierarchy in Argentina supported the military government. The Junta’s program of torture, assassinations and ‘disappearances” of thousands of political opponents was coordinated and supported by Washington under the CIA’s “Operation Condor”.
Wall Street’s interests were sustained through Jose Alfredo Martinez de Hoz’ office at the Ministry of Economy.
The Catholic Church in Latin America is politically influential. It also has a grip on public opinion. This is known and understood by the architects of US foreign policy as well as US intelligence.
In Latin America, where a number of governments are now challenging US hegemony, one would expect –given Bergoglio’s track record– that the new Pontiff Francis I as leader of the Catholic Church, will play de facto, a discrete “undercover” political role on behalf of Washington.
With Jorge Bergoglio, Pope Francis I in the Vatican –who faithfully served US interests in the heyday of General Jorge Videla and Admiral Emilio Massera– the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Latin America can once again be effectively manipulated to undermine “progressive” (Leftist) governments, not only in Argentina (in relation to the government of Cristina Kirschner) but throughout the entire region, including Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia.
The instatement of “a pro-US pope” occurred a week following the death of president Hugo Chavez.
“Regime Change” at the Vatican
The US State Department routinely pressures members of the United Security Council with a view to influencing the vote pertaining to Security Council resolutions.
US covert operations and propaganda campaigns are routinely applied with a view to influencing national elections in different countries around the World.
Similarly, the CIA has a longstanding covert relationship with the Vatican.
Did the US government attempt to influence the outcome of the election of the new pontiff?
Firmly committed to serving US foreign policy interests in Latin America, Jorge Mario Bergoglio was Washington’s preferred candidate.
Were undercover pressures discretely exerted by Washington, within the Catholic Church, directly or indirectly, on the 115 cardinals who are members of the Vatican conclave?
Who is Pope Francis I, Interview of Michel Chossudovsky with Bonnie Faulkner, Guns and Butter, KPFA Pacifica
Bergoglio the Terrible is a false pope. An ‘anti pope’ is an illegitimate claimant when there is at the same time a formal (true, actual) pope.
If you erroneously believe that Mr. Ratzinger was pope, fine, though he no longer treads this vale of tears.
Let’s say Bergoglio was the pope and pretend I’m looking into Christianity. Can you explain why I should be Catholic instead of Old Catholic or a Jansenist?
Exactly.
Not Catholic Trump’s right hand man, Not Catholic Musk, just welcomed his 13th child into the world from yet another woman he’s not married to.
Please, dear Catholics, lecture me on how great these men are.
I want to further refine this because people still don’t get what Musk is doing.
Musk is not cutting spending. He’s not saving money. He is firing people, unconstitutionally, that is it. The money is still there.
Congress controls spending. Government grows and shrinks via the purse and that is Congress. And since baseline budgeting was introduced in the late 70s government will always grow unless Congress stops it.
Ok so what is going on? Musk is freeing up money that is already appropriated. It’s already spent. How much do you think he’ll use that for his pet projects? Or how much of that extra money will be used for “owning” Gaza or whatever else Trump wants to do?
As with Vatican 2 and “pope” Francis, DOGE and Trump are all about illusion. Most people for example don’t realize that on a yearly basis no president added to the debt more than Trump.
So nothing is being done, nothing will be done. The spending is still going to be there, it’s just that Musk and Trump will use it for what they want. Indeed their defense is that they can use the money as they see fit, despite Congress saying otherwise.
Trump even said today on his loathsome social media site that nothing someone does to save the country is illegal. That my friends is what dictators have said for thousands of years.
We went from the frying pan into the fire. And we don’t realize it.
You know, other than Mike’s personal hobby of fortune-telling, he is hilariously good at stating the obvious but framing it as some kind of genius criminal conspiracy:
“Guys! Guys! Listen! Musk and Trump are taking taxpayer money away from all these government agencies wasting it on DIE, trannies, propaganda, heroin and other clandestine activities… ONLY SO THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND SPEND IT IN OTHER WAYS THAT THEY THINK IS BENEFICIAL FOR AMERICA!!!! DON’T YOU SEE???!!! IT’S SELFISH!!!”
You don’t say… Mike!
I am in awe as to how you alone noticed that Tricky Trump and Felon Elon never announced any plans to directly refund American taxpayers for money the government already collected ages ago!
But the worst part is, that only seconds ago, that there congress was finally about to put on it’s neatly ironed constitutional pants and do what it has been too busy deliberately not doing for decades and decades, when that great Dictator Drumpf and his egotistical Executive Orders got in the way to stop them from doing exactly what Drumpf is forcing them all to do anyway!
This is not standard procedure you guuuyyysss! The President can’t just fire or lay off his own employees, or look at the Treasury, or curb very nice charities bringing the gospel of gender revolution to Africans… Because it’s the Sabbath Day! The constitution forbids doing anything on the Sabbath! Just listen to this exegesis by this Democrat Judge! Trump can’t ignore the judiciary! Only tyrants do that! Think of the union leaders! How will their families afford eggs this Easter???
Everyone has said Trump is reducing the size of government. He is not. And he can’t.
Everyone has said Trump is cutting spending. He is not. And he can’t.
Trump isn’t firing anyone. Musk is. Musk has no authority to do so. The president brining in an oligarch to do so isn’t constitutional.
The government stays bloated because Trump is doing nothing to reduce the size of government nor the spending. That takes working with Congress. And he’s not doing that.
You’re watching a side show and pretending the guy who poisoned America with the C19 vaccine is helping. No amount of your hysterical exclamation points will change this fact.
Oh, I see… So according to Mike, Trump is “only pretending” to lay off and fire thousands of government workers, and the Democrats and unions and judges and media are also “only pretending” to panic and stonewall and scream loudly that the Presidential Office has “no authority” to shut down anything the same Presidential Office created, and are “only pretending” to defer to Republican-controlled congress, and “only pretending” to worry about Elon’s “power” to do nothing, and because absolutely no-one is being fired and no departments are being closed and having their duties folded into other existing agencies that helps reduce redundancy, therefore Mike is also “only pretending” to come here and panic about nothing happening.
And now I’m getting confused here, so Mike will have to explain… Government is not being reduced, because no one is being fired, so Elon isn’t firing anyone, therefore Trump hasn’t given an oligarch power to fire anyone, but Mike says Trump did, even though Trump says he didn’t, he said that Elon can only make recommendations as a special advisor, and then Trump and his team make decisions, but Mike says Trump can’t do that, but government has been bringing in non-government organizations, expurts, and civilians to help advise them since the beginning, but Mike splutters that only da congress can authorize these departments, but Trump is simply using pre-existing departments that former presidents AND congress already authorized to do all this, Trump only renamed them DOGE, so Trump is simply having them do what they were already set up and made to do, but hadn’t done, so Mike protests that Trump is using congressionally approved departments to do thing they hadn’t done, but also that they aren’t doing the things Trump told them to do, because they and Trump they are all “pretending” and congress and the democrats are playing “pretend” too. And Trump is also pretending to appoint well known critics of the C19 debacle to positions of power, because RFK and others, and all those soldiers they are bringing back with back pay for refusal of the Trump shots are also in on it, and the democrats and media and Big Pharma are all in on it and “pretending” to panic too!
Have I got that right, Mike?
Please explain! Unravel for us all this factual mystery!!!!! I am using many exclamation points!!!!
The fact that you insist on talking to the people here like they’re retarded and have no concept of anything that’s actually happening is what makes you so insufferable, Mike. Even when you’re right.
Maybe that’s the point… to make the truth so obnoxious and unappealing that people turn away from it.
If you feel as if I’m taking to you like you’re retarded that’s your problem. I simply think you’re upset that I’m right about these things.
You find me obnoxious but not Donald Trump. How sad.
I can only find one of you obnoxious?
Sure you can, you’re just finding the wrong one.
I am always astounded when I read comments that indicate people still think Catholic laypeople or public figures should be saints with halos and seraphs overhead and they are disappointed when they are not. JD Vance is a relatively new but serious Catholic, who is bringing his Catholicity into the public sphere, which is astounding given where we have been politically speaking and in the culture. We should not expect him to be a saint.
Elon Musk is a brilliant guy who believes we need to protect children and he respects life. This is badly needed because children are under assault in so many ways, and they suffer. We should not expect him to be a saint. Donald Trump is a singular historical figure who has already accomplished the impossible and attributes his life to the mercy of Christ, and who has a vision of good for his country and his countrymen, and hopefully the world. We should not expect him to be a saint. These are great men in their own ways and we should thank God every single day of our lives for their willingness to sacrifice themselves and help us in yes, our hour of need. We know where we were headed under the former regime. Wake up and smell coffee. We were headed for hard totalitarianism. Thank God, thank God, thank God, we were spared. Somebody must have prayed.
The church has been infiltrated as it was told long ago by witnesses and infiltrators, also prophets. We’ve seen it take root and grow. The Catholic faith is still valid and true, but its adherents are being mostly driven underground by the peronist antipope. The men at the top are hirelings, the men in the middle are hirelings. We know who they are and it’s most of them by far, maybe 95%. If Bergoglio the infiltrator/plant were gone today they would probably put someone just like him in his place. It would have to be God who intervenes to rescue the church in His own way. That the church has been hijacked by leftist political posers is undeniable. Looking at the current crop of bishops and the way Bergoglio has subverted the cardinalate it’s hard to imagine a change in direction, but with God all things are possible so there’s hope. But let’s see things realistically.
I don’t mean to go all Mike on the thread, but Elon Musk is none of those things, especially brilliant. He’s a propped up agent of chaos who’s high on ketamine most of the time you see him in public. As much as we might want to love what he’s doing with DOGE, it would be wise to remember that the Elon brand was built on the very government largesse (Space X, Tesla, Solar City, etc) he’s now exposing.
Musk told you what he was when he put on the baphomet costume, and then made it his profile picture for two years while he actively courted Christians. Believe him.
Is the abomination of desolation puppet priests standing in all our once-holy places? Or could it now be the Jerusalem temple being rebuilt, as Hegseth wants, and resumption of animal sacrifices? Despairing to hear Catholics calling Jorge holy father.
@Mike thanks for injecting some sanity and reality.
@Evangeline you have set up a straw man argument. Mike has not said at all that he is looking for saints. Catholics are not looking for saints.
Is it insufferable to point out how propaganda is framing people’s views on what Musk is doing? Come on, people are being straight up brainwashed in real time.
In my opinion we are witnessing a great deception. Biden/Harris was built up to be evil incarnate to drive conservatives into the arms of a pro-abortion, pro-eugenics, pro-sodomy platform. Want to sing me some YMCA? They are all deceivers who talk out of both sides of their mouth. I have seen Trump say he is not a Christian in a Turning Point event speech. We should all remember where deception comes from, who is the author of it. It is at its very nature Anti-Christ. Why would the powers-that-be go through all this trouble? Because they want your consent for the next move. J.D. Vance’s backer – Peter Thiel, has surveillance tech that is being used by the government. It was in the news. I don’t have any special insider info, I’m a keen observer of many things including the hot mess that passes for critical thinking in Catholic circles today. Is that harsh? You bet and we need to hear it so everybody put on your big-boy pants. The tech bros were all up front and centre at the inauguration. These people are not your friends, they are the oligarchs with the real power and even they answer to someone. Musk is a defense contractor and I bet none of his contracts are going to be cancelled. But he does like to dress up in a Baphomet costume and flippantly announce he doesn’t care if he goes to hell. For goodness sake my fellow Catholics, DO NOT BE DECEIVED! Here is the most tragic saying of our time: “It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled”. Even if you don’t like the things I’ve pointed out, please THINK about it. Would intelligence agencies powerful enough to place a man on the Throne of Peter allow a do-gooder that they didn’t control rise to power in America, or is something else afoot? Let me solve it for you, there is no deep state, just the state, and it is worse than you can ever imagine.
You want to talk sanity and reality?
Start with knowing how to separate facts from conjecture.
You want to sell the idea that a great deception is being played on us by Trump and Elon? Fine. SUBSTANTIATE IT with good solid arguments. Not suspicious feelings, not grasping at straws, and certainly not with kooky Democrat talking points, even if broken clocks can be right, you need to prove it too.
All you’ve listed are obvious things about Trump and Elon typical of modern day liberal unchaste American behavior. But nothing at all that demonstrates that the good things they want to do aren’t in earnest.
When you want to do anything of consequence in this day and age, you NEED the tech bros on your side as much as the generals. Sleeping with these bedfellows is unavoidable. Welcome to the erroneous reality of Democracy, where compromise with evil is routine, and the only way out is a Catholic Monarch or dictator who is willing to raze it all to the ground and start over.
Power is always Top>Down, in Heaven and on Earth, and Americans need to face the reality that oligarchs and the powerful always rule rightly or wrongly because Divine Providence Wills it so! Until that reality sinks in, you ain’t Catholic!
Well, has it sunk in for you?
If that fact disturbs you, then please cease lecturing to us about your worries steeped in Americanism, because it is you who are deceived! America was never Catholic, it was born and lived on rebellion. Thus it succumbs to it.
Therefore the best thing Trump can do is expose the rot and delay the inevitable. Nothing more, but we’ll take that, and the black pilled sometimes need to get out of the way instead of contributing to the problem.
The State and intelligence agencies while dangerous, have also demonstrated that they are fallible and retarded. So there is no reason to be that fearful of them, and their screw-ups have bern very evident of late. That is why they are panicking and being more obvious. Do you think they risked obvious election rigging and undermining the credibility of the ballot box illusion that keeps the population pacified because things were going swimmingly for them? Did that Afghan pull-out look competent to you? Has that Ukraine war been won yet? Are the men dolling up like women fooling you?
The State is a perpetual paranoid donkey with a shotgun and a Star of David branded on it’s ass hoping to build paradise by consuming and defecating all over the place and calling it capitalism. Stop giving these morons the fear and awe only reserved for God!
And this is exactly my frustration with Pharisee Americans that complian that Trump isn’t allegedly following “the rules” of this or that up against a bureaucracy of cheats and criminals who circumvent them at will but bind you to it to their benefit, which is what Mike here complains about. Boo hoo!
I don’t know where he or you get the idea that anyone here of all places thinks Trump is the final saviour of mankind filled with the Holy Ghost. Or that we are blissfully unaware about his immoral life, which is what Mike accuses us of being oblivious to, and Evangeline rightfully pointed out, because Mike really won’t cease hijacking a thread unless a canonized saint comes back from the dead and is in office (And you and he’d still be paranoid because the tech bros were at the saint’s inauguration just like Christ dined with sinners and had the company of prostitutes hoping to do the right thing). Please go preach in those places where they do actually think that, cause it ain’t here!
So let us all stop bringing Trump and Elon up in every combox that has little to nothing to do with them. This is about Antipope Bergolio’s possible installation under Obama and Podesta, only made more credible in light of information made available under Trump’s administration that has us talking. Stop with the defence of people derailing discussion because TDS is not exclusive to the left.