(Today is the Feast of the Chair of St. Peter at Rome in the pre-1955 Liturgy… reposting this from a few weeks ago -nvp)
The saints and doctors of the Church teach that if a pope having sufficient knowledge and having made sufficient reflection denies an article of Faith and professes heresy, he falls to heresy and loses his papacy.
When it is taught that ‘a pope cannot profess heresy’ it simply means that this profession cannot be made and completed while he is pope, for upon attempting to profess heresy he loses his papacy and is reduced to a heretic, whereby the profession is made as a heretic and not as a pope.
Hence a pope as a private person can profess heresy but could never make this profession while occupying the papal office. Consider the words of St. Alphonsus Liguori (1696-1797), Doctor of the Church:
“If ever a pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he should at once fall from the Pontificate. If, however, God were to permit a pope to become a notorious and contumacious heretic, he would by such fact cease to be pope, and the apostolic chair would be vacant.”
St. Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, makes this very point.
“A Pope who is a manifest heretic automatically ceases to be a Pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.”
St. Francis de Sales echoes this point as well:
“Now when the Pope is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church…”
The 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia states:
“The Pope himself, if notoriously guilty of heresy, would cease to be pope because he would cease to be a member of the Church.”
St. Antoninus says that such a pope who is cut off from the Mystical Body cannot be the head of that Body.
“In the case in which the Pope would become a heretic, he would find himself, by that very fact alone and without any other sentence, separated from the Church. A head separated from a body cannot, as long as it remains separated, be head of the same body from which it was cut off.”
The lus Canonicum on the 1917 Code of Canon Law by Wernz-Vidal makes this same point:
“A pope who falls into public heresy would cease ipso facto to be a member of the Church; therefore, he would also cease to be head of the Church.” It adds, “A doubtful pope is not pope.”
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I don’t know what’s a bigger problem:
That jorge mario bergoglio is an obvious heretic, or that people cannot or will not see that he is a heretic.
What I want to ask people: “Exactly what does that man dressed in white running that neighborhood in Rome, Italy have to say, do, or publish, for you to even say that we have a problem?”
And also, “How can a heretic be Pope?” If someone wants to quote to me a Saint or Doctor of the Church who explains how a heretic can be Pope, I will be all ears. As far as I can tell from my own studies, a Pope can be ANYTHING… But a heretic.
And also, “Please name me one anti-pope from Church history who was declared as such AFTER he died.” Because I’m willing to bet people who take THAT route don’t know jack about Church history!
It really does call into question modern people’s mental state to see such “lack of thinking.”
People get angry when you bring up that maybe he isn’t Pope. Like clockwork.
No one wants to admit they’re being conned especially WHILE they’re being conned.
“I was wrong, I was an idiot, and a criminal who was smarter than me tricked me.” That’s HARD for people to admit. I’ve had to do that myself.
I’ve seen people get angry all the time (multiple times per week) with people sending money overseas to obvious scammers. Try and bring up how this isn’t legit, and they get angry. Ask them to take one mere hour to rethink about this whole situation, and they get angry. We’ve even offered to call the cops to explain this scam to them, they only get more angrier at that. We then send their money (a lot of cash via things like Western Union…).
Guess what? They come back the next day or so, begging for their money back. We can’t help them. Their husband-to-be in Pakistan has it.
(Except for the one time we had a nice lady who said, “I know how this looks, but I really do have a fiance in Nigeria who needs money, here’s pictures of him and me in town here in the USA, and pictures of me and him in Nigeria with his entire lovely family, we’re working through the immigration office right now.” If that was a scam, that fellow earned his money…)
Whenever bergoglio passes to his judgement, I predict that a lot of people are going to come out of the woodwork and say they didn’t really think he was ever Pope. I also think that a lot of people who have passed on the last decade are trying to do and say the same thing the people who’ve lost their money to scammers have done to me.
Just like I cannot make anymore obvious that sending money to a guy in Nigeria is a scam, it can’t be anymore obvious that man isn’t Pope by venerating pachamama and the great western grandmother, and blessing sodomite “partnerships”and MANY other examples.
Thought about it. They would have to insist someone can teach formal heresy all he want, and it doesn’t matter, until some cardinal declares it. But if THAT is true every Catholic is free to promote as much heresy as he desire, and still remain a member of the Church (and therefore meets the minimal pre-qualification to achieve salvation), so long as no cleric says anything.
I seriously hope that when he promotes the mark of the beast for 2030 they will realize he has no authority whatsoever.
I knew he was ersatz when he said, “who am I to judge?” in regards to the sodomitical lifestyle. On the world stage he ratified sin.
I’m not Catholic. Not yet anyway. Even I , as dumb and sinful as I am, can see this man is no way pope nor catholic nor christian of any sect. I mean duh.
CM, what are you waiting for?
I don’t know exactly. Shame. Fear. Guilt. Pansified. All of the above.
I’m not hearing any doctrinal difficulties, so you are morally obligated to seek out a Trad priest to get you in asap. Don’t die outside.