Four days later, only 76% of votes counted, nearly every race still too close to call. Remind me again why Florida, with twice the population of Arizona, manages to count all their votes in 45 minutes. Combox is open.
Oh, and it’s a non-story here. Try finding one news article questioning it. On the contrary, what you will find are multiple multiple articles splaining how normal it is. How it’s always been this way, okay? They’re counting as fast as they can, dammit!
It’s not just Maricopa County, it’s others as well, but obviously Maricopa is where the population is. POTUS and Senate too close to call, but interestingly Kari Lake has 100K fewer votes than Trump, and her opponent is an avowed Marxist. How are there 100,000 people who vote for Trump, then the next race down vote for a Marxist? Several congressional races up for grabs too, including Scottsdale/Fountain Hills seven-term GOP rep David Schweikert running against Amish Shah, who comes to us from Chicago via Berkeley, and who barely won his primary with just 23% of the vote.
Abortion passed by such a wide margin that they called it on Tuesday night. There were many other ballot initiatives as well, but the bright spot was making crossing the border illegally a state crime, enforceable by state and local LEO. The ‘Catholic’ bishops of Arizona banded together to campaign against this initiative, because reasons. They drew up flyers and websites to fight it.
As for my own district, it is hopelessly blue, to the tune of +70% in the congressional non-race. So at least my neighbors have that going for them, even if they got the sads when they had to take down their outrageous Halloween decorations and their Harris signs in the same week.
Had a nice chat with Dr. Mazza yesterday. We share the hope of ending the foreign wars, protecting children from mutilation, canceling DEI, and many other wokeisms. I cannot imagine how bad it would have been under eight more years of Barry/Biden/Harris. We agreed that the Trump win should at least keep us free for a few more years, but only if he has learned from his mistakes, makes better decisions, and hires better people.
Mark – I do you hope & Doc Mazza are correct. I’m of the personal opinion that DJT is a great deceiver, but I’m open to being wrong. Only time will tell I suppose.
The abortion referenda are largely disappointing (with the exception of Florida). But I must ask, where are the bishops? It’s profoundly problematic (to say the least) that illegal immigration is being made a moral equivalent of or even superior to the issue of abortion.
The days are dark. Let us all pray for one another.
Nurse Claire, the AZ bishops also spoke out about the abortion measure, but they placed it on equal footing with the immigration measure, as if they were morally equivalent. The Bishop of Phoenix gave a sermon a couple months ago where he basically said it was anti-Catholic to enforce our border laws. Ridiculous.
As for Trump, I too am open to being wrong. As you said, the days are dark, let us all pray for one another.
Are you open to Catholic teaching (even by Pre-VII theologians) that Catholics were obligated to vote, even if the two candidates hold immoral positions, if the greater evil can be avoided?
https://www.padreperegrino.org/2024/11/kamalapers/
Can you explain to me how doing evil when you have a chance not to is not consequentialism? As far as I can see, they seem to be talking when you only have two choices, both evil (not voting might also be evil, but you may do it if there are no alternatives). Can pragmatism (there are only two practical choices) suddenly make it okay to support intrinsic evil for proportionate reasons?
So if we do consider the fact that there were nonevil choices, are we not obliged to choose them, regardless of consequences?
I’m asking, not saying anything.
There is a duty to prevent greater evil; failure to do so is an evil itself.
https://restore-dc-catholicism.blogspot.com/2024/11/nevertrumpers-i-defy-you-to-refute-this.html?m=0
https://akacatholic.com/cardinal-burke-we-have-an-obligation-to-vote/
How can voting for a lesser evil prevent a greater evil? And by the way, who decides that Trump is a lesser evil than Harris? Because Trump occasionally invokes God he is a lesser evil? You realize he believes in abortion, yes? You realize he supports Ukraine and Israel’s wars, yes? You realize he dumped a bioweapon on the country?
When Jesus said Pilate had the lesser sin over the Jew who handed him over, he wasn’t endorsing Pilate. And call me crazy, but if Jesus had to choose between supporting Pilate or the Sanhedrin, he’d choose neither.
Not voting is also a vote.
Mike – all you do is rant. Cite any source of Catholic moral theology that supports your position. I’ll wait…
I have the entire New Testament / Jesus’s own words and 2000 years of Catholic dogma to tell me that endorsing sin is a sin.
Indeed, if endorsing evil is Catholic dogma (moral theology) you should be the one citing it. Which you have not.
I’m right. Always.
Mike, you should start the “I’m Always Right” blog.
Mark, I can’t. Barnhardt already has an I’m Always Right blog.
Bummer.
Links to 3 articles full of citations provided….I guess the RIF-mobile didn’t make it to Mike’s neighborhood when he was growing up.
Then why do they say you MAY vote and not you MUST vote? If we are obliged to prevent the greater evil, we MUST vote no matter what. We don’t have a choice. Also when these theologians say that the candidates are not perfect I am not certain they meant “intrinsically evil” but rather just “evil”.
I have these questions because what we have been told does not seem to gel with my study of pre-Vatican II moral theology or the writings of JPII. Instead these concerns are dismissed as moral purity or smugness or virtue signaling. Which is also odd because Jesus clearly taught that we must be morally pure to experience the beautific vision.
Edison,
Nowhere does Cardinal Burke cite dogma in his interview. And that’s because it is a complete fiction that you have to vote for any evil. For one, it’s not entirely clear who the lesser evil is. Donald Trump literally poisoned about 90 percent of America with a gene therapy shot that will kill you. And yet you and most Catholics say he is not as evil as Kamala Harris. Ok, you’ll need to explain that. Destroying the country is pretty evil. And I note Trump has never said he was wrong, he made a mistake, or apologized.
Nowhere can Burke prove that voting for Trump would prevent a greater evil. Neville Chamberlain was chosen as PM because the theory at the time was that he was great at producing peace. Instead he helped unleash Hitler. Right now Donald Trump is more slavish to Israel than Biden is. Trump encouraged the latest round of Ukraine aid. Are we sure he’d be a lesser evil here?
So your first article is ridiculous.
Oh and a note about Burke. Burke has allowed a much greater evil to flourish, the reign of Antipope Bergoglio. He has been humiliated by Francis and has never ever given him the verbal smackdown he deserves.
The second article you copy and pasted doesn’t rest on any Catholic moral theology either, but on the assumption that Trump is “pro Christian”. But how? That isn’t explained.
The article quotes Leo XIII about voting for the common good, but what does that mean? How can we be sure Trump would help the common good? Idk, a guy who thinks he has a mandate from God seems a bit sketchy. Especially for a non-Catholic.
Pius X is quoted that you shouldn’t be idle when your religion is in danger. Yup. But does that mean voting for what YOU perceive as a “lesser evil”? How is Christianity not in danger from Trump? I go back to abortion and the clot shot.
And one and on we go.
None of this is dogmatic. None of the popes quoted addressed whether or not you have a bevy of anti-Christian choices. None of the popes quoted address the “voting for the lesser evil” myth.
Not only am I an excellent reader, I possess impeccable logic, probably the only thing the Good Lord gave me.
Your view makes sense only if you believe Trump is pro-Christian, hasn’t done bad things the first time he was president, etc. And that’s quite obviously a dubious set of claims.
Take care, bro.
Trump is an uber zionist.
What is the English translation of the Kol Nidre?
“Kol Nidre” means “All Vows.” It is an annulment of the prior year’s vows that were, according to Encyclopaedia Judaica, “made unwittingly, rashly, or unknowingly,” allowing the Jewish people to formally free themselves of prior obligations, so they may start the year fresh.Mar 28, 2023
You are 100% that DQ Chump is the Great Deceiver. And the MAGA crowd has been groomed for nearly a decade for this moment. Like the Austrian Painter, Trump is going to launch his own Operation Barbarossa. And just like the Austrian Painter fooled millions of Germans and Eastern Europeans in 1941 that he was the savior to liberate Russia from the Bolsheviks, Trump will convince millions that he is the “Chosen One” to bring “Peace in Our Time”. The “Biden SHow Foodfight” is over, and the Trump Show is about to begin. The Final Countdown has started. Outside of the Immaculate Heart of Our Lady of Fatima, there is no hope, and anybody placing hope in a political solution is utterly delusional. It is easy to see that everything, from the obviously phony “assassination attempt” in Butler PA to the False Flag of the “Hamas Attack on Gaza” last Oct 7th 2023, has been scripted for the “Trump Administration”. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. You are our only hope!
It looks as though the Cardinal Bernardin seamless garment approach is still the current view of the American Bishops. Abortion and euthanasia not to mention contraception are only equivalent evils alongside racism and discrimination against unlawful mon citizens.
Thanks Mark for your blog, I read you every single day. Let’s remember Susie is no longer a lobbyist, we have no idea why she left that field, or what she knows from the experience. DJT has given RFK free reign in regard to Big Pharma and he’s not known to renege. I would think if she factors in she would have tried to convince him prior to him okaying RFK. She just doesn’t hold that much control over him. I wouldn’t be so fast to poopoo this election and DJT’s choices. He did get more than one reprieve from our Lord regarding his life. Let’s continue to pray for him and see why God has placed him in this position and let’s not pretend we know better than He.
As for the counting in Maricopa…do they have the quadruple amputees counting on their fingers and toes?
https://www.barnhardt.biz/
See Ann’s latest about trump and musk 🤔Very interesting ….
I don’t trust any of them-
I often wondered if Trump could be the AntiChrist but he doesn’t have some of the right markers. I agree with Ann on this and Elon has a least one of the markers, he’s Jewish, so definitely one to watch very closely.
“he’s Jewish”
IS THAT RIGHT???
Trump is definitely a zionist….but that does not make him “jewish.”
In some respects defining “jewish” is like trying to nail jello to a wall….
What’s that expression about “walking and quacking like a duck?” Funny that Trumps “coiffure” reminds me of the old “DA” style (duck’s ass).
Some would argue the “zionists” ultimate goal is to destroy the state of Israel ( 95% of Israeli’s are atheists) once its “usefullness” is over.
Big question is “Will Trump attempt to enforce the “noahide laws?”
Tucker Carlson likes them better than the 10 Commandments.
☝️☝️☝️…I believe we Catholics, without a pope and trustworthy magisterium should not fight amongst ourselves over vote/no vote positions. If your conscience says you should, do so; if your conscience says not to, don’t. Personally, I believe the no vote position is the way to go ..but that’s for me and I’m certainly not going to tell my fellow Catholics to follow my conscience. The Church and the whole world is a mess …because we have no pope…for 66 years…😉😊😉
More propagandizing. We haven’t had a pope since 2022. Canon Law says so. Your feelings aren’t official.
The Church and the entire planet is in shambles Mike….and it didn’t start in ’22. I know you’re always right, but on this you are dead wrong….😘